Inner Radiance in the Workplace Conversation
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Lisa de Laroy: [00:00:00] There's always a give and a receive, and I think that when we find the flow and allow ourselves to give and receive without the expectation or force that trusting that we've set things in motion and we're allowing, the broader forces beyond our logical thinking mind to help us get there, that's when it's almost like a letting go, but trusting.
In yourself and in the bigger picture that you don't always see.
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Sheree Beaumont: Welcome back to the Wild and Wild Collective. We are so honored to have the beautiful Lisa [00:01:00] here with us today. We actually all got to know Lisa during our certification program, ICM and the work that Lisa does in the world is so beautiful. I'm excited to dive into our topic of Inner Radiance today, and I'm curious, Lisa, can you tell us a little bit about how you really got to this point in your work?
Because I know that you are an expert in a lot of subject matter and to really claim and own this space that you do so beautifully. I'd love to hear a little bit about your journey.
Lisa de Laroy: Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yes. Thank you for the kind introduction. We've certainly had some great chats about these topics and more.
I think actually this goes back for me to a long time ago in my corporate career where I ended up falling into a sales job and I had a perception of salespeople and what sales was and. I didn't feel like I resonated. I didn't feel like I wanted to follow the lead of the way that some of those people operated, [00:02:00] and I say that now in complete with complete love and compassion.
There is no judgment. At the time though, I just felt like I didn't fit in and I felt like there was something wrong with me and the way that they were inspired by sales incentives and all the things I really. I just felt at odds with, to be honest. And I stumbled across some of these theories that I teach and that I've gone to learn more about.
But really falling into what gave me energy, what I valued, and what I did well in order to serve the clients well, served the business well, which in turn turned into serving me well as well. So now I help people do exactly that. Whatever job they're in, it's about finding their radiance and what they connect to in the job.
And. Purpose that they want to pursue.
Christa Elza: Yeah, I like that you pivoted and you shifted a little bit from like judgment to like how people find that, so radiance is really kind of your word, I would say. Right? Like, it's how to help people find that [00:03:00] because and it's not even like that.
We have to find it or create it. We have it. So you're more pointing People into unveiling that to themselves. What kind of process do you do mm-hmm. To help people realize what's already there, but bringing it out in them?
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. There's a number of things. And we all, we all basically are born with the same.
Needs the same human dynamics, but we're all very different and individual. And what I help people do is really hone into what makes them unique and special. And often because of their programming and how they've done things, how they've learned to do things, or how they think they need to fit in. And just talking back then about my corporate career, I think even my judgment wasn't so much about the people.
It was me thinking that I didn't fit. And so we grow, almost like grow these. Walls or layers, which take us further away from who we are. So I like to help people strip that back, having a look at what they value, what their strengths are, [00:04:00] having a look at the stories that they've grown up to believe, and whether they serve them or not.
What things give them energy, what depletes them? What do they love? What don't they? And again, everybody's different, but it's amazing. It's just amazing how unraveling all this allows people to see the radiance that already exists, and when they lead from that level of confidence and radiance that they have within them, they only choose things that are a natural match.
There's no longer a disconnect.
Sheree Beaumont: I think this topic of radiance is something that's like really dead in my heart as well, because I do think it's an inside out job, right. But when we hear it, it can come across as. Like how does this even fit in the work context? How does this fit in a business context?
How is this going to 'cause often we want an ROI, right? Like, how is this gonna help my career or what I'm wanting to do? And so can you share a little bit about how this inner radiance really does fit in the corporate world or even in a work or a business context, and how people [00:05:00] really are able to enhance their careers through this.
Lisa de Laroy: sure. I think In a lot of ways people wear masks in life, and we do that to fit in, we do that to play different roles, but the more we do that, we are hiding who we really are. But it's actually a lot more easy to beat ourselves than we allow ourselves to believe. And so. We can feel disconnected from ourselves in a work sense because we want to impress, we want to be seen, recognized, and valued.
And we have all these inner dynamics, which sometimes don't allow us to see the truth for what it is. But we make up all these, there's just all these barriers to stopping us from literally being ourselves. And so , the basic things are. They, some of them come down to a skills level or some of them come down to a strength level and they're external things.
But again, they're really connecting to the type of person we are, the personality we have. Boundaries are included in [00:06:00] this work is a real mind and body experience because the thoughts that we think the way we lead and what we do integrates into our body. And so I like to talk about people working as life and work.
As an extension of themselves rather than performing a job going home and being someone different. Doing that and being like, life is one, and the more we see ourselves as the wholeness that truly exists, the more we have this freedom to just be ourselves. And it is a big thing to say and for people just to understand, but people are all very individual and they've got their own unique ways of the world, seeing the world.
It's such a profound experience when they get to peel back the layers and then it's really often small, but subtle shifts of seeing yourself for who you are without all of the noise, the doubt, the imposter syndrome, and connecting you back to that core confidence that exists [00:07:00] already.
Christa Elza: I think you bring up a good point of, you hear that saying, how you do one thing is how you do everything and
Lisa de Laroy: yeah.
Christa Elza: When I heard that, I was like, what? But it is interesting like myself and like, let's say how I keep my bathroom organized. Okay, let's just use that Women, . We have a lot of things. Mm-hmm. How do you keep that organized? And then how do I keep my office business organized, my desk organized, like there's some similarities or what do I struggle with, or what do I find more challenging?
Or what do I find easy? And that does flow into your entire life if you really think about it. Yeah, so I think part of it is just becoming aware of how you do. One thing is how you do everything in an aspect of like, okay, I don't love this part. How can I grow, change and shift so that it changes across the board in my relationships and.
My home and my work. Yeah. So awareness is always kind of a big thing, right? What's the kind of the next step that you take someone to, to make a change? Because I [00:08:00] think, telling someone, like, if you wanna love your work and you wanna show up big here, we also have to deal with like, how do you feel sitting on the couch at night about yourself?
Or how do you feel in social settings? Right? So you're digging deep. It's not just kind of a task to be honest, is what you're saying. It's an overhaul. Right?
Lisa de Laroy: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you just had a few things there that, which I'll get to answer as well, but that I was recalling from a recent conversation I had with a client.
And the way that you say it and the way that I say what you were just describing is that this work does have a ripple effect. And I was talking to this client the other night who she literally came to me about her work and feeling stuck and really feeling like. One, she didn't know where to go with that, but also she didn't really think it was possible to have what she wanted because she was questioning, should I just be happy with this nine to five, what's wrong with me?
But then what also came up, she said, oh, can we talk personal? And she wanted to bring up her experience in relationships and she was describing how. [00:09:00] The way that she showed up in relationships was wanting to give it every chance by compromising her needs, and she knew straight out she'd had the conversation straight out with this particular example that she needed these things to happen and he couldn't reciprocate, but she left it open.
And then found herself getting caught up in this confusion. She said about the games. And then she said, and I said to her, isn't it interesting? Because I'm sure we've all done it at some point in life where we think we have to hide the truth, play the game to some extent, but we're really just causing inner conflict with in ourselves.
And in that conversation we were literally saying that life is a mirror. She is. Causing what it is she's actually trying to avoid by the dynamics. And then she flipped that into the work situation and said, oh, look at that. I'm also feeling that I'm not being heard at work, so I'm too scared to speak up.
So we just get all, I sometimes picture it as a, a [00:10:00] big ball of wooly knots. It's about unraveling all these conditioning or beliefs or fears that we've been caught up in and start seeing ourselves from. That kind of space, it's about loving ourselves more. And allowing ourselves the opportunity to believe in something more being possible.
Mm-hmm.
Sheree Beaumont: Being able to step into the belief in self really, encapsulates that inner radiance. And I know a lot of the work you do is around that confidence and. And even moving people out of the burnout or the overthinking or the mess that is the mind essentially. And so what I'm hearing when you're talking about the unraveling of the wall, it's getting to that root cause.
And I'm curious when people come in for this kind of work, like you said, they're often feeling really stuck. Or they're kind of like, sometimes they don't even know what they want. And so how do you help someone navigate [00:11:00] through that? Like if someone's sitting here listening, going, I am like, I'm at this point or this pivotal point in my life where I don't feel like, like one of the biggest things I hear from women all the time is I don't feel like me anymore.
And then they've just taken on everyone else's responsibilities. They've taken a lot of compromise that's happened. They don't have the boundaries there. And it can almost feel too overwhelming or too confusing to even know what. Like underneath the ball of wall, like what is it that they're even looking for?
And so if someone's like showing up, like how did you help her navigate to even see that life is America's this concept? I know we completely understand, but I've had conversations with people, I'm like, well, yeah, life's a mirror. And they look at you like, this is really foreign concept. So if someone's new to this work, how do you help them get to that point where they can not only get out of their own way, but.
See the vision that's truly possible.
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. Well, a couple of things, and Krista, you were referring to the [00:12:00] awareness component here. That awareness is the first step and obviously sometimes we don't see our own patterns or habits, but I try and invite people to, they obviously describing things to me. I try and invite them to see themselves as an observer and help identify the gaps.
And we just try and look at the gap from, if they were dreaming big. What would the big look like and where are they now? And as an observer, literally what is the gap without judgment? And often we react or respond to situations to get things done quickly, to get from A to Z, but there's a lot in the middle that needs to resolve for it to be, more lasting and sustainable.
So, I'm picturing Dr. Victor Frankl and the concept he has where he builds the space between that stimulus and response. And so one that is literally the observing place where we, I ask my clients to describe the situation they're in and what they, [00:13:00] what the gap could be about.
Often it's a gap in their values or boundaries being broken and. Sometimes it can be as simple as if love or value recognition or loyalty is missing, where can they start giving that to themselves first? And even in the conversation I mentioned with my client and the relationship where can she start giving herself the love?
Because we identified, even that example that I was speaking about, she was forgetting herself along the way. She was compromising, and it can be. It can be a hard compromise to think about. Sorry, a hard context to think about when you just turn it back on yourself. But so often the gap is because we are giving everything outwardly.
We're expiring ourselves, we're exhausted, we mentally can't make sense of our mind. And just speaking of the minds as a lot of it is creating space and stillness for. People to [00:14:00] access their truth. Because actually under all of the noise and the busy life and stress, the unknown and the doubt, we actually do have more wisdom and answers for ourselves than we can lead ourselves to believe.
So a lot of what I do is helping people slow down to access that. And it is quite profound that. I can offer workbooks and things for people to do, and depending on what stage they're at, it could be the mood of the day. Like we've all been through. Also similar things where we see something one day but we don't the next.
It can be quite profound when somebody creates the space and energy and also believes in you sometimes when people are looking for evidence of something being possible. If they don't have it for themselves, we might draw on that evidence from someone else and we start planting the seeds so the brain starts to understand that things are possible and not one person has access to something more [00:15:00] over another.
It's really just how much they believe and trust in not only the process, but trust in themselves and I guess bring their dreams to life.
Christa Elza: I think this is a really interesting concept. It's not a concept, truth. A really interesting truth that we all have the same power, we all have the same.
Sheree Beaumont: Mm-hmm.
Christa Elza: I don't wanna say the same capabilities because we're all unique in what we're good at. But we all have the ability to, I believe that if we have the ability to dream something and it's really on our hearts to do something or we really strongly desire something, then it's available to you.
And yet we look at other people. And we're jealous. We're like, and we're jealous in a way because number one, that's just a signal of what you actually want. So that's actually a gift. Mm-hmm. To feel jealous of someone. But I think where we get in our own way is thinking they can have it, but I can't.
And so [00:16:00] that is probably an ongoing process as long as you're a human being. Right? Like, because no matter what level you're at, there's always a next level. Yeah. And I think you bring up something important of just bringing the awareness that yes, you can do it. And we're the only per, we're the only thing stopping ourselves from allowing that to happen.
I think, I tell this to my teenagers a lot because they're right at that end of high school, beginning college, and there's so many doubts at that age. I'd like to say that it all disappears as you age, but it doesn't. It's just more like very blatant when you're younger because there's just so many new things that you don't feel like you have a grasp on.
And I find myself sometimes like really listening and trying to absorb what I'm telling my children because. To them. I'm like, you can do whatever you wanna do. Just decide that you wanna do something and it will figure out a way like the earth, God, the universe, it will align so that happens if you truly believe this is what I'm gonna do, no matter what, I'm gonna do it.
And [00:17:00] that sometimes, yeah. Like I say, I have to parent myself too because I'm like, wait, if it's true for them, it's still true for me no matter your age. Mm-hmm. But if you really desire something and you really believe. Then you can make it happen. And you know it's, there's some underlying disbelief that you can do it, which is why we feel stuck.
Even though we're like, no, I wanna manifest it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna make this thing happen. If it's not happening, there's some part of us. Would you agree that there's underneath that doesn't believe there's some block there that is overriding? The abundance that is always flowing to us if we just allow it right.
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah, totally. I think energy is also a big guide. Because again, we are one body. The mind interacts with the body, and if we're feeling resistant somewhere, and this is sometimes when I refer to the layers, if we haven't resolved the layers that are in the way.
Christa Elza: Mm-hmm.
Lisa de Laroy: We can't necessarily bring it all in.
However, we're always planting seeds if we believe and [00:18:00] focus. It's about time focus and energy on the thing, being specific. And as we're programming our brains, the reticular activating system to look for the thing. And if we continually looking for the fear side or the worry that things aren't working.
We inevitably end up with more fear and more worry, and it just be, it becomes that cycle. So the reality is, as you say, that we can strip all of that back, and when our energy feels most aligned, we feel positive, inspired, and excited by our vision or our dreams. It is much easier, and it's not that it falls out of the sky.
We are always taking some sort of action and we're setting the scene to allow it to come to us.
Christa Elza: Mm-hmm.
The
Sheree Beaumont: concept you just brought in is like allowing us to receive. And I think, one of, one of the key things that can often happen when we're stuck is we think we just need to [00:19:00] push harder or we just need to do more.
And I'm curious with this concept of inner radiance, how that looks differently. I am not sure if you bring in the conversation around masculine and feminine energy, but. So often we get stuck in the burnout or stuck in the overthinking, or like you say, we compromise our boundaries and so we're either in the wounded feminine or the wounded masculine, and either way, we just feel like no matter what we're doing, we're not calling in what we want or to talk to Krista's point.
You end up feeling like you're not. Like there's a seed of doubt or there's a seed of I can't do this. Instead of the, as you would say to your children, you can go for it. Like you can, like you have the utmost belief in them. And so when you're reprogramming this or you are re-aligning to that inner radiance, how do you help someone navigate through that kind of inner turmoil?[00:20:00]
Lisa de Laroy: I think the, about the push, that to me feels like resistance. And so I'm helping people understand how their body is talking to their mind, or their mind is talking to the body. And in a masculine feminine sense, there's also opposites attract or action creates a reaction.
So there's always two sides. There's always a give and a receive, and I think that when we find the flow and allow ourselves to give and receive without the expectation or force that trusting that we've set things in motion and we're allowing, the broader forces beyond our logical thinking mind to help us get there, that's when it's almost like a letting go, but trusting.
In yourself and in the bigger picture that you don't always see. I mean there's many examples, which I'm sure you have too, where, I have, or my clients have set out to do [00:21:00] something and sometimes they can happen so quickly and other times it might take a lot of time. And when people are waiting.
They start to worry that it's not working and then that's when they might start the force and push and do all of the things. And it's not to say that we don't try or put in extra effort or pivot and change direction, but it's really holding that inner sense of peace and calm and holding the vision and allowing the flow to move through and around us.
Christa Elza: Mm-hmm. That's the hard part. Yeah. The waiting I do think that. It's really interesting when you say you want something. So we could just use an example. Oftentimes, money seems to be more tangible. You could say, I want health, or I wanna find my partner. Let's use that. I wanna find my future partner, even though I've been married forever, but like, let's say I did.
Mm-hmm. You. You say, okay, but I don't have who I want in my life. Or let's use a, [00:22:00] let's use a best friend, a girlfriend. I wanna bring in more like tight, strong relationships and I don't have that. And so it is interesting if you look at that and say, well, this is what I want, but I don't have it, so where am I believing?
Like what? What do I think when I really, really think about having. That best girlfriend that I can travel with and do fun things with, and I don't have that where let me investigate some beliefs that maybe I have that's holding me back like, well, I believe like in the past I've lost girlfriends or,
I don't get whatever, whatever the excuses are, whether it's relationship or your health or your money, where do I have maybe something sneaky underneath there that I feel tight. About like, oh, I remember when I had a girlfriend. She stabbed me in the back. And so, right. Like if you really start to dig into some of these things that we want and then look at like, okay, well I don't have them.
, Where do I have maybe some potential blocks?
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. Well we [00:23:00] can perhaps go into that type of thing to feel where that's coming up in the body because experiences. Get stuck and we want to help those move through us so we can drop into the body and explore sensations and feelings in the body, which often then bring meaning to the client's mind that they may or may not have known, but they hadn't really understood that that got stuck in the body and that then.
If we are able to shift that energy in, around, through the body, then they start to feel a lightness or experience the feeling within that feels more comfortable and flow and potentially this is then opening up for more inspiration about what it is they're looking for and offering them more ease in getting it.
But I think I would also couple that with what is the vision of the. Girlfriend, boyfriend, partner thing, what is it that you are looking for? Because we can so easily remember the job that didn't work [00:24:00] out. The thing that tied me out, the boyfriend that didn't happen, the girlfriend that I don't speak to anymore, and that's natural because the mind will always bring that, the negative things up.
But we get to use that to our advantage and turn it into something that we want. So I always try and help people. Really build clarity around what it is they're looking for in the friend. And so that's becomes a really clear picture. And if it matches their values and meets their needs, then they start to feel good about that.
In terms of seeing themselves with the person, what are they doing? What are they talking about? Who am I when I'm with them? And interestingly, they say things like, I feel like myself. Because we've worked with the inner energy, the inner block, the inner, it's almost a protection I think people hold onto without realizing it, and it's moving through all the stuckness to help them see what's really possible.
Not only see it and think about it, but feel it in their body. [00:25:00]
Sheree Beaumont: Mm. The feeling of it, and one thing I know you do talk to a lot is. This inner wisdom or this ability to connect back with your intuition. And often when we're feeling stuck, it's because something's a misalignment, right? We're pushing, like we were talking about before, when we need to be in receptivity, we are trying to force something to happen and.
It's really, we need to lean back and actually see, like you said, the vision of what we really want. One of the things I've been playing with, and that's come into my awareness a little bit more is. Aside from getting really clear, like clear and specific, which I think we definitely need in order to then look for the evidence, then activate the reticular activating system and like, you know how we rec circuit the brain essentially.
Mm-hmm. But the other thing I've been really trying to play with, and I'm talking like really, really recently, so I can't speak to how it works hugely just yet, but being like, what do I want? And then how can I be [00:26:00] that version that attracts that in? Mm. Because. Mm. If you're saying you want a partner, and I can talk to this.
I I don't have my human, I know both of you do. But if I'm like, okay, I want someone that values their health and someone that loves freedom, and someone that is this, that and the other thing. But I'm sitting at home not prepared to go out. I am sitting there binge, not that I would, me, but like sitting there binge eating chocolate and like, like how am I being the version that is going to attract that person in?
I'm not gonna put myself in situations that actually allow me to even meet that human being. And so I think it's a huge part of the conversation we need to have here. And in order for, correct me if I'm wrong, but for someone to step into their true inner radiance, they actually have to become what they want.
Lisa de Laroy: Mm. Yes. And also be connecting and meeting with others that could potentially allow that introduction to happen. I was referring the other day to a funny story that I heard through one of the coaches I trained with many years ago, and she instructed one [00:27:00] of her clients to stand at the bottom of an elevator.
He was very shy and he didn't wanna ask anybody out. And she said, ask every woman that comes off that elevator if she would like a cup of tea. And she said, it's not about you. When they say no, they don't even know you. It can't be personal. But so much of. US avoids wanting to feel rejected. We're not willing to put ourselves in situations, but part of the practice is getting uncomfortable with the uncomfortable, so you have to be out to meet people and I'm not sure that I would.
That's a good idea. If you wanna stand at the bottom of an escalator and ask every guy out, let me know how it goes. it's not a bad thing, but it is exposing yourself to the possibility of meeting people. But I think after you have aligned with the energy that feels right. What is and you might not be what he looks like, but what does he love?
How does he treat you? How do you treat him? But even just [00:28:00] thinking about all of that starts putting you in that energy of feeling it all now, so it's not unfamiliar and it starts to be more familiar, which means that when you step out to interact with people, it starts to feel more comfortable.
Sheree Beaumont: Mm-hmm.
Christa Elza: I think it's just challenging to really embody that. But I think frequency, like you said, energy, it's like the radio waves, that the radio itself is not playing the music. It's gotta be connected to the frequency of Yeah. The antenna that's putting it out. Hmm. And so I think that's what you're describing, right?
Like trying to be attuned and being already having the way of being as if it already was, which yeah. Can be somewhat challenging to get out of your mind and into like a little bit of like play of like, no, this is already here. How would I act? Who would I be if X, Y, Z was already here? Like who, who am I at [00:29:00] that point?
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah, I think that, something skips my mind there that I was going to refer to, but I think that in terms of the intuition part, like there, there are times where maybe we overthink what we want. We overthink our goals, we overthink, is this really what I want or do, I just think it is. And I think when we can slow down and access quiet and literally ask questions like, who am I?
What do I want without searching for answers, that's when we allow the intuition to come in. And it can be a fine line interpreting what is real or what is it that I'm thinking, but again, I help people lead from the thoughts of the identity they want to live into or lead from, shall I say, as opposed to living from the past and the experiences that they're currently in.
So not living from circumstances which can feel a bit forced and pushed and limited in the [00:30:00] behavior and the actions that we take, but really starting to look at if I did have that job relationship or thing, now how would I be acting? What are the things I would be saying? How would I be smiling? How would I be walking, talking, and what sort of.
Experience is what I have. If that was true, and I agree it can be difficult, but we've practiced. It comes, it becomes a game. It's like we're putting our imagination back in charge of what we want as opposed to the limits that we see in our current lives, or perhaps what other people have said to us that we're too scared to step out of that comfort zone, but it's out of the comfort zone where we actually create the growth.
Sheree Beaumont: the stepping into the like being comfortable in the uncomfortable is something that I love that you brought up. And whether that's in health or whether that's in your energy, whether that's with the partner like you're talking about, there's always gonna be that edge and. One of the things I [00:31:00] notice when I work with clients or even, and potentially 'cause life is a mirror within myself, there's such a deep seated fear that I've had to work through around this rejection piece, right?
And I know that that is, we're talking about, okay, you just gotta do it. You've just gotta be playful with, and you've. But how, and I know so many people get stuck on the how, so I'm gonna put you on the spot, Lisa, and say, if someone is sitting in front of you and you can see that one of their core patterns or their core wounds, because a lot of it comes down to, right, if you're fearing the rejection underneath that, if there's a confidence piece often, right.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but how do you get someone to move into. Being willing to go and stand at the bottom of an escalator or an elevator and ask people out for a cup of tea, like to me, everything inside of me. Mm, no. There's no way I could physically do that, but I can see how it would work, and I can see how the playful part of me would be like, okay, yeah, but to get from.[00:32:00]
Absolutely. Heck no. I'm scared of rejection too. I'm gonna go and do the thing. What do you, what do you guide your clients through to help them embody the ability to get over that like rejection piece?
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. Well, there's a few things, and one is I would question the rejection part and strategically around that we don't want to be rejected.
However, we can't possibly cater to the needs of everybody out there. So really what we are most responsible and able to empower ourselves with is what it is that we can best do for ourselves. Because when we are doing our best for ourselves, we have the best to give to others. And the rejection piece is that, is it really you they're rejecting or is it just that.
There's not a natural match, and why would we wanna [00:33:00] force something that there isn't a natural match for? So there, and I'm just yeah, everyone will be different and there'll be different pieces in that we all fear rejection, so it's common across us all. So we really break down the questioning side of that because at the end of the day, we want the right fit.
We don't wanna make everything fit. And then. Yeah, this is where it's not sustainable. So whether it's a job or a relationship, we wanna move more towards what is the fit for us so that it has more chance of surviving the distance, but also another party's visualizing the experience. The first date, the.
Asking someone out, they're going for a job interview. I used to do this when I did workshops. I would picture myself before I got there doing the thing and feeling good and rehearsing that. So I felt like I was really doing it so that when I got there, it was no longer scary. Yeah, I might have had a few butterflies, but again, there's that, excitement is such a fine line with [00:34:00] fear and it's working with the energy.
There's a lot of movement exercises that I bring to help people move the excited energy out and around as well. Breathing, when we are in our mind and we are thinking so much about rejection, that presents in the body about the fear and shutting down. So we wanna update the way we think about rejection and how it appeals and applies to us.
And the bigger picture, but also then resolving that restriction in the body and opening up to the possibility of things really feeling good and working well. So there's a few things there, but movement's a big part of my day even. I have stuck energy by sitting down. At my desk I was recording videos.
I was so stuck during the day and I was like, I've gotta get out of his head. And yeah, there's a range of different things and conversations that I have with myself all day long, every day because we're human, we get stuck, we have patterns, we have old stuff come back. I think Krista was saying like, we never, I used to think when these things [00:35:00] evolved in my career many years ago, that.
You got to that thing and once you were done, you were done. But we are always evolving and moving to our next level, and we are meant to grow. So anytime we start to feel stifled we're stagnating. We are really part of, an inner, part of us is calling for that next level of growth. And it's scary because.
Fear of the unknown comes up and then all of those feelings that, we've been describing come through and we just keep working the tools. It's a layered, it's a layered process once you start to understand all of these core dynamics of your own. And again, we are all very similar, but we are still very different.
And it's paying attention to the parts that will really help for me, help my clients move forward.
Christa Elza: So what if someone's like, okay, I don't know where to start. What are some ways that you have, what are some tips that you could give the listeners on just like how to move. Forward [00:36:00] in this direction of really feeling like they can have what they want in their job experience, in their personal life experience.
Like, like as you say, their inner radiance, like just really living in alignment with who they believe that they are, what they believe that they want. What are some just things that people can start with to, to move in this direction.
Lisa de Laroy: Sure. I think if somebody's feeling stuck or they know that they want something different than they currently have, it's really useful just to write down all the things that they don't love or they're not enjoying the things that are taking their energy just to get it out and really observe what the dynamics are that are going on.
Because if we don't know what we want, we start with what we don't, and then we look at perhaps what the opposites are or what it is that's missing and. Yeah, also just almost like an energy meter, I call it, is a bit of a journal over the course of a week or two. What things brought me energy, what didn't, what things do I love that [00:37:00] I'm not doing as much of, or what was an experience I have that I would like to bring more into my life.
It can be, as much as job descriptions, looking through jobs or it can be. Industries, it can be values. I love supporting others, or I love art or, , whatever the things are for the particular person. Really just taking, an inventory on the things that give them energy as opposed to the things that are taking away from their enjoyment is really a helpful first step.
And sometimes it really, you can also bring values to your current position. It's not, in fact, I don't. Yeah, if people are really sure of what they want, I can help them move there if they're stuck. But I also like people to realize that they can find that sense of self and sometimes radiance where they are.
And it doesn't always take major change or major moves because when we again, come back to our confidence and [00:38:00] the things that are important to us. We could find a way to make it work. And I, I do say things like we can positive think ourself into anything, but if it's, if it doesn't go deeper, it won't last.
Sometimes people need to just get to that positive place before they're ready to embody that next level version anyway, and then we will make meaning of why it's useful to stay where they are without jumping. Most people come to me and say, I've gotta get out of here. I want to go straight away. And they often.
Rewind find peace, settle calm, and then really connect with what they want so that when they take that next step, it feels more authentic, real, and their confidence is literally shining.
Sheree Beaumont: That's really beautiful. Is like that intentional pause to find the peace is what I'm hearing. And it can be when you've got these big goals, you've got these big dreams and. It's often we [00:39:00] are looking at in the mirror and going, why hasn't it happened already? And then when we slow down and see that, okay, there has been a level of misalignment, or I have been blocked here, or I haven't been taking the initiative.
Like I know personally, I was like, why am I not where I wanna be in all these areas? And I was like, oh. Like you've been caught in this, I call like the busyness loop. And so I love the idea. I actually wrote it down. I was like, I need to bring this to my people. The energy meter and just looking at what you're willing to let go.
'cause I think we're always trying to bring more and more and more and more, more in. And we cannot, if we haven't emptied our cup, how are we supposed to fill in more? And it's the same with this like idea of the busyness, with the scheduling, right? Like, I look at my calendar and I'm like, well, how are you gonna be doing all of these, speaking events and these big dreams and big goals that you have?
If your day is bogged down with like, I'm gonna be writing a social media post here, like you, you cannot [00:40:00] put more into a cup that's already full. And whilst we wanna be always having that. Overflow and that abundance. I think that's very, a very different energetic perspective. So. This idea of almost auditing your week and going, where am I?
Where's my energy leaking? Where am I over compromising? Where? Where am I saying yes when I should be saying no? And part of that is really reclaiming your power, I think too, because again, I notice this more so with women as well as like they're constantly giving. And so it's like, well, where can I give back to me first?
And then when you're able to lead from that space, lead from that radiance. That's where the magic happens. So I'm really, really curious if you were to leave our listeners with just a couple of key things that literally if they, maybe it's a little habit or a little routine, that if they're feeling like their energy's being drained everywhere, maybe they've done this energy audit or this energy meter.
They can just [00:41:00] confidently step into that inner radiance that might give them that taste of that you might move through the blocks.
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. I think a couple of things. One is try asking for something, and it can be small, whether it's your boss or your partner or a friend, to allow the feeling of receiving coming in.
Just almost a little love note to yourself to make it be okay to ask and receive. Sometimes I have my clients do mirror work where I ask them to look themselves in the eyes and to compliment themselves on let's say five or 10 things. And even when they're not feeling confident to start, they might say, I love my eyes because they allow me to see.
I love my nose because I get to smell food or what, whatever the things are my legs because they help me walk. And it can take time because we've built this resistance to seeing [00:42:00] ourselves. But honestly, when we speak to ourselves in the mirror and we, it's amazing how far people can go with that. And it's almost like looking into our own soul when we with practice.
The softness comes through and I've had people tell me within a week or two weeks that they feel differently about themselves, and then their compliments start to get more profound, more beautiful. They start realizing and even asking others, I think what they see in us. Like, I don't always wanna ask people to ask external sources because I want them to discover it, but sometimes people need a wake up call.
And it's often, people tell me in birthday cards, oh, so and so said something beautiful. It brought tears to my eyes and we know when there's tears, something's really resonating deeply, so, mm-hmm. Yes. It's really beautiful watching someone realize the beauty that already exists inside them.[00:43:00]
Christa Elza: It's so good because. Well, the universe loves gratitude, so the more we just dive into the things that we love and announce that like, Hey, whether it's money, I'm so thankful that I have the money for food. I'm so thankful that I have money for gas. We all have something to be grateful for.
I'm so thankful that I have this relationship and things that already are here, or I like how you mentioned. Loving on your body based on functionality, because that doesn't require an aesthetic. And there is something to be grateful for. Even if you don't necess, you can find something icky about something.
You also can find something good. And the more we focus on that, right, the more we're opening that window, opening that door to like more abundance coming in because we're in that frequency of like, oh, I do have this capability. I'm grateful for this, I'm grateful for that. And it just gets us on the wave of.
Of receiving that and literally experiencing more of what we want.
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah. Instead
Christa Elza: of what
Lisa de Laroy: we want. And I think as crazy as that, people think it's a silly thing to talk to themselves in the mirror, but if you [00:44:00] asked yourself or if I asked you how does it feel to tell yourself that you are bad or that you are.
Not capable. Like if you were speaking to yourself that way. How does that feel? Right? It doesn't feel good, and I honestly believe that we are on this earth to feel good, and it's so interesting how much we criticize or we don't believe that more is possible. I gave an example to someone the other day about a plant.
She was very into her plants, by the way, and treats them well. Waters them dust their leaves and has thriving plants, but her health was suffering and she wasn't eating well, treating herself well. And I was like, imagine you are a plant. Imagine you were giving yourself the love you give to the plant.
She was like, oh yes, I love plants. Yes, that makes real, that makes sense. And already by talking to herself the way she would talk to the plants, her body started to open. She started to feel less resistance. I guess I, I [00:45:00] truly believe that our body knows how to heal itself. We know how to treat ourself well, and when something doesn't feel good, it's a message to pay attention to.
Give us the opportunity to turn it into something that does feel good. And when we start to feel good more of the time, we start to choose decisions in life that only reflect the goodness that's actually coming from within.
Sheree Beaumont: Mm-hmm. Such a beautiful message there. And I love the, the plant analogy. I ironically did my, I actually did my science fair when I was in like.
I don't know. I was like 12 or 13 and I spoke to the plants and part of them just got sunlight. Oh, some of them just got like the sunlight with the food. Others got like, you had all your controls and everything, but some of them I spoke to really negatively, and some of them I, and I hated that.
Some of them I spoke to really positively. And the ones that you spoke to positively, they were the ones that thrived the most. And [00:46:00] so. It was really interesting to see how much we can like res, like as, as energetic beings. Whether you're a plant, like you're a living or you're a human, I think your body still responds.
And so I love the example that you attested to there and just like, like having someone be able to see the beauty and the way they can treat other people and then have that reflected or treating their plan.
Lisa de Laroy: I was just thinking when you were talking about the plants and that analogy that literally when we were talking about the effects that this work has, how they, the ripple effect that relates to me back to energy. If you just imagine the energy field that extends beyond yourself to the plant, I've even seen examples of people speaking different languages.
They're not actually speaking. But they're understanding each other because it's the flow that has been allowed rather than resistance or the negative energy exchange of, in your description around the plant. So, it's fascinating what energy [00:47:00] is, and if we could just tap into our energy sources more, we feel more empowered.
And that's the exciting part. Yeah.
Sheree Beaumont: Mm-hmm.
Christa Elza: Well, this conversation has been great. I love it. I can always, thank you. I can always dive into these conversations of like, piecing apart what's holding us back from what we want and how do we get what we want. I I love those kind of conversations because it, it bleeds into every aspect of our human experience, whether it's money, health, relationships job satisfaction.
It's all very. Very much the same, and the concepts are all the same. So once you nail it down in one, once you understand what you're, what we're talking about, you can start to experience that in all areas of life. There's no boundaries to it because it's all the same laws of attraction.
Right. To get to
Lisa de Laroy: get that. Yeah, absolutely.
Christa Elza: Yeah.
Lisa de Laroy: It's very rewarding. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing to do.
Christa Elza: Yeah. So how can people find you share, and we'll put this in the show notes as well, but let us know you work virtually with people, I'm assuming, and how can people [00:48:00] connect and work with you if they're really wanting to take it to the next level and just kinda feel stuck in how to make it personalized for them.
Lisa de Laroy: Yeah, sure. So I do work one-on-one and also groups depending on the individual. There's different themes of the work, but all comes back to that core inner radiance and inner success model. And I can be found on core guidance and Instagram and also core guidance coaching on Facebook. And Lisa Deroy on LinkedIn.
Sheree Beaumont: Beautiful. Oh, thank you so much for your time, Lisa. It's been such a radiant conversation
Lisa de Laroy: thank you for having me.
Christa Elza: Yeah, what you have offered here is gonna help. So many people. So thanks again for being here and if you enjoyed the show, definitely get into the show notes and you can see how you can connect personally with Lisa.
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